Dropbox Alternative: Box

We are around 2 months away from Dropbox unceremoniously logging out PowerPC users, kicking us to the curb via a digital eviction notice.

There is no sign that the growing thread in the Dropbox forums is changing anyone’s minds, although there were rumors someone was going to try to port the newer Python framework to Leopard. We’ll see.

In the meanwhile, let’s begin to look at some alternatives to syncing and sharing your files online.

My first choice is to point folks to Box.

Box screenshot

Box is similar to Dropbox in that it gives you a folder that can be synced across different computers. It also has the ability to share files and public folders via a few easy clicks and includes access via some fairly decent mobile apps. The web interface is very useable, and the client (if it works on your computer) is similar enough to Dropbox. I’ve had a Box account for a while with a nice amount of space, but I couldn’t get into it because it initially had an issue with some Mac files with bundles. That is now fixed.

In a quick glance, here are the ups/downs:


Pros

It tends to be generous with space. Dropbox starts you off with a few GB though you can add more via pay or referrals and stuff. Box tends to be more generous – I got 50 GB through some deal for free.

Webdav support is awesome. You can mount your Box folder via the command line or using Go -> Connect to Server.

Generally has similar features to Dropbox and integrates with other services.

Cons

There is no client for PowerPC Macs. You will have to rely on its built-in WebDav protocol to mount and make use of your folder.

Copying files is not particularly fast via Webdav. I’m not sure if I have something setup incorrectly or if it’s just a slow protocol. This is annoying. I’m still waiting for 4 files to copy totaling 410k in size after at least 5 minutes. A Webdav client (like CyberDuck) may not have these issues.

FTP access is possible for paid accounts, not for free accounts.


Update: Here’s a quick follow up reading to help get you started with Box. It seems Box support recommends using third party clients to map your drive in Mac OS. Good to know. CyberDuck does work a bit smoother in some initial testing.

In summary, Box is a reasonable option to check out. You can still have access to the same pool of files across a variety of devices, keeping in mind that your G5 will still feel a bit like a second class citizen without the great sync features of Dropbox. As you give it a test run, let me know how it goes.

Links for You

It’s been nearly a month since my last post. I’ve basically just been very busy with travel and projects caring for homeless men and women in my community.

So to tithe you over, here are a few links for your continued perusal and learning.

The Quadras, Cubes, and G5 blog followed the exploits of its author in trying to get his G5 back and running after it failed to boot up. It’s a good read if you have similar issues with your G5, because someday, you will. Maybe it’s the G5s finicky power management system? Who knows. Read the first one here, then his followup, and then the exciting conclusion.

Good news: TenFourFox 31.5.0 is out. Also, in that same link, find out how to build RAM disks in Tiger/Leopard if you want. Cool stuff.

PPC Luddite provides a quick and dirty comparison of the various ad blockers for Firefox. The winner: uBlock.

Have you ever heard of Hollywood? No, not THE Hollywood. Hollywood is also a multimedia app development kit that can work on PPC Macs and a whole other range of hardware. I’m intrigued.

— Nathan

The FX4500 & Your G5

Peter, one of the intelligent readers of this blog, wrote in with a nice money saving workaround to upgrade your video card to the best available option.

He suggests flashing a compatible FX4500.

In most benchmarks that I’ve seen, the FX4500 does edge the 7800GT in some tests. It was really designed to be more of a workstation card as opposed to a general usage or gaming card. You will probably see more benefits if you are rendering video or something of that nature, but as prices have fallen, it is cheaper to max out your G5 by grabbing one from eBay. Mac compatible ones, which may be just flashed cards, run around $100, but PC versions are available for $40-50.

Here’s an alternate route – get a PC version of this card and flash it. Peter tells us how:

It is trivial to flash a PC version of the NVIDIA Quadro FX4500 with the Mac firmware. These cards can be obtained on eBay for ~$30 and are much cheaper than the “Mac” versions, that typically cost around $100+. The only important thing is to make sure that the card you get has RAM on both sides of the card. Newest versions of the card only have RAM on one side of the card (the fan & cooler side) and will not work with the G5 (but they will work on the Mac Pro with the correct firmware).

This card has RAM on the back side of the board and is good for flashing with the G5 firmware:

This card does not have RAM on the back side and will not work with the G5 firmware:

You can find the ROM and utilities over at the Mac Elite wiki site.

This info has me tempted to try it on my own.

— Nathan

SSDs That Work #CrowdSourcing

‘m thankful for emails from some regular readers, especially in response to my trial and error adventures with new SSDs. So, it’s time for us to try to put a list together of the top 5-6 recommended drives that work with our G5s.

Please use the comments below. I’ll also be posting a thread in the MacRumors PowerPC forum to generate some responses as well.

Drives That Work

  • OWC drives obviously work. These are the safest options, although they are rarely on sale like other drives. You can likely save money going elsewhere, but if you want a guarantee that they will work in your Mac, these are a solid choice.
  • The Intel SSD 320 works perfectly in various configurations.
  • The Samsung 840 EVO works fine but only in the lower drive bay.
  • Corsair F60GB2 (and likely its larger capacity siblings) work fine. It is an SATA II model.

Drives That Do Not Work

  • Intel 520 SSDs do not work. (I will admit that I’ve had one reader who has had success using them in Linux, so it could be a Mac OS X thing not necessarily a G5 thing. I was not able to get them working in Mac OS X.)
  • Intel 530 SSDs also do not work.
  • The PNY Optima SSD with Silicon Motion controller does not work in any configuration.

I’ll be updating this with more information and notes as I get other suggestions.

It sounds like there are several troubleshooting options when trying to get your SSD to work in a G5. First, remove any other drives, and try it solo. Put the drive in either bay – upper or lower – to see if you get different results. Second, if you are trying to use two drives in the G5, experiment with the other drive being SATA I. You may only be able to have one SATA III or II drive at a time in your G5 configuration, although it appears this varies based on the different chipsets and manufacturers of the drives. Third, pay attention to the version of Leopard that you are installing from. Later versions may be better able to see and partition your SSD.

Stay tuned for more info to come.

— Nathan

The Beginning or the End?

It was bound to happen sooner or later. Today, Dropbox blasted emails out to Leopard and Tiger users to let them know that as of May 18, they will be dropping support for these older operating systems.

This is a huge bummer. For one thing, it might mean that I move completely away from Dropbox. I loved having a sync option that worked on all of my computers, from Windows to iOS to new and older Macs. But if my G5 can’t use it (except through its rather less useful web interface), then I may have to look at rolling my own.

I’ll have to do some fresh exploring of this in future blog updates. If you didn’t get the update, here’s the info below.

Hi Nathan,

We noticed that you’re running the Dropbox desktop application (client) on an older operating system (OS X Tiger 10.4 or OS X Leopard 10.5). We’re writing to let you know that as of May 18th, Dropbox will no longer support these older versions of OS X.

Don’t worry – your files and photos aren’t going anywhere! But you’ll need to update your computer to OS X Snow Leopard 10.6 or later to access them through the Dropbox desktop application. Apple’s instructions on how to update your operating system can be found here.

If you don’t want to update your operating system, your files will still be available through the Dropbox website. However, on May 18th you’ll be signed out of your Dropbox account on your computer and the Dropbox desktop application will no longer be accessible.

We apologize for the inconvenience. For more information, please check out our Help Center.

Sincerely,
– The Dropbox Team

Not happy, Dropbox. Not happy at all.

Here are some followup links to add your voice:

Maritn Kukac posted an open letter to Dropbox on his blog.

Many PPC users are posting on the Dropbox forums with their feedback to this decision. Add your voice.

— Nathan